A mistake I frequently make as a political observer is believing conservatives mean what they say. Not that I often agree with them…but the things they put forth as policy are framed in such passion and earnest self-righteousness, I just can’t help thinking they must be sincere this time. And all too often, my faith turns out yet again to be naïve and misplaced.
In 2005 during the inaugural address for his second term, George W. Bush delivered these stirring words:
So it is the policy of the United States to seek and support the growth of democratic movements and institutions in every nation and culture, with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world. This is not primarily the task of arms, though we will defend ourselves and our friends by force of arms when necessary. Freedom, by its nature, must be chosen, and defended by citizens, and sustained by the rule of law and the protection of minorities. And when the soul of a nation finally speaks, the institutions that arise may reflect customs and traditions very different from our own. America will not impose our own style of government on the unwilling. Our goal instead is to help others find their own voice, attain their own freedom, and make their own way.
As early as 2003, George Bush had apparently envisioned this powerful grass-roots democratic movement starting in Egypt. Speaking to the National Endowment For Democracy in November of 2003, Bush said:
The great and proud nation of Egypt has shown the way toward peace in the Middle East, and now should show the way toward democracy in the Middle East. Champions of democracy in the region understand that democracy is not perfect, it is not the path to utopia, but it is the only path to national success and dignity.
This was not just Bush’s personal vision, but the stated policy of his administration in 2006:
More broadly, the Bush Administration has viewed democracy promotion as an instrument for combating terrorism. Both the U.S. executive and legislative branches of government support democracy promotion in other countries. The Bush Administration has implemented both bilateral and multilateral programs to promote democracy, such as the Millennium Challenge Account (MCA), and requested about $1.5 billion for democracy promotion in FY2008. Also, it has identified governing justly and democratically as a key objective of its foreign aid policies.
And, of course, the value to our security and prosperity of “promoting democracy” in the Middle East was repeated incessantly during the course of the Bush administration by conservatives everywhere as a completely viable justification for the costly war in Iraq, even absent Weapons of Mass Destruction or any overt threat to America from Saddam Hussein’s régime.
But then two things happened and everything changed, seemingly overnight. The first was Barack Obama’s election as president of the United States, and the second was a spontaneous, grassroots uprising across the Middle East, an “Arab Spring” in nations seeking to throw off the yoke of authoritarianism and begin to govern themselves.
Suddenly and inexplicably, western conservatives began to lose their enthusiasm for democracy in the Middle East. It was no longer a joyous event to be fervently desired, resulting in Americans being showered with candy and flowers by grateful liberated peoples. Instead it morphed into something dark, sinister and threatening to western interests.
We began to see many articles like this one from right-wing commentators and bloggers, mocking Barack Obama’s gullibility for believing in the Arab Spring:
Despite the fact that the Islamists are widely expected to win a majority in the Egyptian elections, Barack Obama is preparing a speech praising the Arab Spring. Obama intends to make the point that shooting Bin Laden in the eye and the uprisings and overthrow of several pro-American regimes will usher in a new era of political change in the Middle East. Seems a bit foolish, doesn’t it?
Or this one, telling us that Muslims are neither historically, culturally nor ideologically capable of functioning within a true democracy:
Most people like the idea of democracy, it’s the idea that the people you hate get just as many votes as you do, that they don’t like. That’s why Muslims will play the game of democracy, but only until they score enough goals that they can take the net home with them. Tolerance was only a virtue in Islam, when Mohammed and his handful of followers needed to rely on the goodwill of people who didn’t like them. But once the sandal was on the other foot, the swords really began to fall. And so did the heads. That’s why the Arab Spring is fated to end in a Muslim Winter.
Or this one by former neoconservative hawk Andrew McCarthy, in which he sounds both angry with the media for promoting democracy, and more than a bit nostalgic for deposed strongman Hosni Mubarak:
Why is the situation in Egypt so dangerous? Because the “Arab Spring” is not the Arab Spring. It is the Islamist ascendancy. Like good democracy fetishists, though, the media is seeing the Egypt it wants to see. To the contrary, in the real Egypt, Islamist ideology is the mainstream, coursing from the beating heart of Al-Azhar University through every part of the country. Without the much-derided Mubarak around to clamp down on it, Islamists have Copts and secularists paralyzed by their habitual unrest and clashes.
Most recently we have had the shocking and embarrassing spectacle of Republicans openly siding with the leader of another nation, Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu, who lectured the President of the United States, in public, for expressing a view on Mideast peace negotiations that has been the settled policy of the United States for decades.
So there you have it. Forget all that rapturous support of George W. Bush’s dream to bring democracy to the Middle East, with Egypt leading the way. When people in that part of the world rise up to bring democracy to their own nations, it is no longer a noble and necessary development; it is something to be feared. The residents of those countries are Islamists and terrorists whose freedom now poses a threat to the West and to Israel. They cannot be trusted with democracy, because they are too primitive and unstable to handle it. What’s more, they’ve always been that way, and Barack Obama is gullible and naïve to think otherwise.
So which is it? Are conservatives lying now because the Arab Spring is happening under a different president…or were they lying for all those years when they supported democracy in the Middle East, which was advanced by George Bush as a primary justification for the Iraq war?
It’s a difficult question. I leave the answer up to you.
Related articles
- The Struggle For Middle East Democracy (3quarksdaily.com)
- Ted Koppel: Scrap the Notion of Arab ‘Democracy,’ It’s Not Happening Any Time Soon (papundits.wordpress.com)
- Ben Stein: “Arab Spring” is a fraud (cbsnews.com)
On the question as to whether they were lying then or now — the answer is that they lie to themselves all the time, and only peripherally to the rest of us. While all humans suffer from various cognitive problems which make us prone to error, conservatives suffer most particularly and severely from wishful thinking (AKA “confirmation bias”).
It was wishful thinking that gave them certitude that bringing democracy to the middle east would result in stable governments amenable to American (actually, Israeli) interests. It’s wishful thinking now that a Democratic president’s policies will fail.
They see every potentially positive event under a conservative leader as proof positive of the correctness of that leader’s policies, while they see every potentially negative occurrence under a liberal (accepting, for the moment, that Obama can be termed that, from their point of view) as proof positive of the failure of that leader’s policies.
I really wish some of our conservative visitors would clarify their views on this because I am truly puzzled by the right-wing stance, which seems totally contradictory to me.
Just tell me… is the Arab Spring a good thing for the world and for America… or is it a bad, dangerous movement?
If it’s a good thing, why all the relentless negativity from right wing commentators?
And if it’s a bad thing… wasn’t it also wrong for you to be supporting the Iraq war so passionately for all those years?
It can’t be both, can it? It must be one or the other. So which is it?
@shortchain… They see every potentially positive event under a conservative leader as proof positive of the correctness of that leader’s policies, while they see every potentially negative occurrence under a liberal (accepting, for the moment, that Obama can be termed that, from their point of view) as proof positive of the failure of that leader’s policies.
Thanks shortchain. I didn’t see your comment until I had posted mine.
I fear you may be right, though I was hoping for a different (and perhaps exculpatory) explanation. The one you propose is frightening to me… because I think people capable of that level of self-delusion and partisan blindness are not just incapable of running a country.
They are not even capable of being a loyal opposition.
fili,
I can’t believe you still think there is consistency in the typical RWer! The usual consistency is their inconsistency. You have seen it demonstrated time and time again in the politicians and here on this blog.
The same people that want “small government” want to use government to intervene in what would be legal contracts between informed adults, just because the “Bible tells them so”!
They want us to believe they prefer “fiscal responsibility”, and then run up $10 trillion in deficits over 30 years.
So you think they would be consistent about democracy, if it doesn’t fit THEIR limited ideology?
Get real!
filistro,
Ah, but you need to see the positive in this. And there is positive in everything — a yin to every yang. Sure, they supported the idiotic policies of the global village idiot W, and they are fearful of the policies of the pragmatic O. But on the positive side, you’ve got to give them credit for an unquenchable capacity for hope, even when that hope is for Obama to fail, producing a pretty dark time for America.
You should not expect an elephant to perform well in the high jump, but for stomping things flat and bellowing, there’s just no other creature that comes close.
Sure, we all dream of an intelligent opposition, but let’s be realistic — we are just lucky to have an opposition, even if a rather clumsy and doltish one, or we’d just be a hive, not a free society.
@Max.. I can’t believe you still think there is consistency in the typical RWer! The usual consistency is their inconsistency.
You know, Max… I’m really kind of agonizing over this. First of all, I don’t like classifying people as “typical” anything. People are so complex. For instance, some years ago I spent quite a while, off and on, living in a house on Lake Travis near Austin while writing a book set in Texas. I met a lot of Texans. YOU are certainly not a “typical Texan”… at least as regards the “redneck” stereotype which also is not accurate, since Texans come in all styles just like Canadians and Egyptians.
Our conservatives here are not just an ideological mass. They are people like GROG.,who is thoughtful and honest… and rgb, who will always admit when he’s wrong and sometimes questions his own ideology… and Bart, who can be critical of his own side when it doesn’t conform to his conservative ideals… and Gator, who enjoys the battle but speaks the truth as he sees it and lets the chips fall where they may…
So I really, truly wonder about this issue. I want to know what these guys think, deep down. My suspicion is that they ALWAYS feared and disliked the idea of democracy in the Middle East, but they supported Bush’s vision because they thought it was courageous and noble, and besides, it solved the embarrassment of there being no WMD. But now Bush is gone and they’re free to say what they really think.
That’s what I suspect. I’d like to know if I’m right.
@shortchain You should not expect an elephant to perform well in the high jump, but for stomping things flat and bellowing, there’s just no other creature that comes close.
Okay, that made me laugh.
I’m STILL laughing…
You’re speculating about their viewpoints. Perhaps GROG could enlighten us?
Fili
The ‘Arab Spring’ is too general a question. Each country is a different situation and scenario. There are over-arching similarities, but also major differences.
The change is generally probably a good thing, but that will be ultimately depend on the outcomes. Who ends up in charge will determine whether a specific change has been a ‘good’ or ‘bad’ thing.
As an ideal, the overthrow of tyrants is always a good thing. As a practical matter, it seems to always create a period of extreme violence and anarchy. But then, this too shall pass.
@Gator The change is generally probably a good thing, but that will be ultimately depend on the outcomes.
Thank you Gator. That’s a balanced answer. You’re pointing out the positives AND the negatives, which is fair.
So would it be also fair to say that during George Bush’s presidency, conservatives (collectively speaking) concentrated only on the positives of bringing democracy to the region, but now when Obama is responsible, they (again, speaking collectively) are concentrating only on the negatives?
Rather like the Dems did with Bush. That is the way of the political world. The shit flows uphill when you are the Prez. Same for either party.
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@Gator… Rather like the Dems did with Bush.
Maybe I’m remembering through a partisan filter, but I don’t recall that Dems were opposed to Bush’s dream of democracy in the the Middle East.
Sure, they didn’t believe democracy could be imposed by force of arms, buts that’s an entirely different thing. It’s simply quibbling over the means, not suddenly dismissing the entire goal as something not worth struggling for (as conservatives now seem to be doing.)
No Gator I don’t think so. Bush was supported when he went after Al– Qaeda in Afganistan. He drew more support than he should have had when he went into Iraq but there were many (myself included) that had some serious issues with how it went down and then how it played out but the vast majority supported the troops and just wanted us out of the mess as it dragged on and on.
The problem today is that we have many in this country that want simplistic answers and solutions to very complicated issues. And to make matters worse they want to see every thing through a lens of what is best for Israel in a narrow sense and not in a sense of long term good for the region and by extension Israel.
I would love for how things played out in Tunesia and Egypt (yes I know game not yet over) to ave occured in Libya, Yeamen and Syria but the last three are not the first two and it is going to unfold differently. For us to try a one size fits all approach would be foolish. My dear old dad used to do police work way back when and some times when called alone to a bar brawl he would sit and watch for a bit until he figured out who needed a good thumping and who just needed to get thrown out the door and who would return to their drinks quietly if the instigators were sorted out. We are I am afraid in that mode right now in the last three countries mentioned. Our problem is we have an entire faction here that wants it just one way.
There are an awful lot of conservatives who are more afraid of jihadism than they are supportive of democracy. Democracy in the Middle East involves accepting that Islamist movements like the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas are going to be running in elections and sometimes winning them. Democracy as in, “secular, progressive democracy that supports Israel,” is a lot different from the reality of democracy in the Arab world, which is going to involve a lot of religious parties and a substantial hardening of the Arab line towards Israel.
This is not necessarily something to be afraid of. But it goes a way towards explaining why a lot of prominent conservatives are afraid of the Arab Spring.
For the most part, I am mostly a lurker and the reason for this can be seen in all the previous comments. Splendidly written,concise,to the point with an insight that has me agreeing with them all even though a few present opposing views.
AW.. well put. What puzzles me is the fact that the same people who want “secular, progressive democracy ” in the Middle East seem bent on imposing a conservative reactionary theocracy here at home.
Go figure, eh? People are so strange.
Marc, whether you post much or not, I just love having you here with us
I agree with many who hold the opinion that the Gop is not interested in submitting legislation to get us out of this mess {economical} we find ourselves in. That their strategy is to obstruct,delay and subvert any initiative that comes from the Dem side. I dont think we didnt expect that however Didnt the american voters realize what they were getting when they gave a landslide to the Republicans in 2010 ? Can the people be that naïve or are they in actuality quite aware of what they were doing . Is it possible many dems sat out the election to protest the Move to the right by Obama{ Gitmo, public option, afghanistan and his Quixotic search for compromise}
filistro,
Are they the same people? Yes, both groups tend to vote Republican, but the polls I’ve looked at show that, while those who want a conservative theocracy in the US overhwelmigly vote Republican, they also do not represent a majority of the party.
Michael, you always take me so literally
Okay, perhaps “conservative reactionary theocracy” is a wee bit hyperbolic.
However, I do think there would be a lot of overlap between those who agree with the statement “America should be a Christian nation” and those who think Middle East countries will only be non-threatening if they are secular democracies.
MW said: Perhaps GROG could enlighten us?
Is that a snarky little jab or is that a serious question?
Re: support for Bush43 …
Bush’s job approval rating was 90% (9/21/01) ie he had Democratic support for just about anything he wanted to do, but alas, he misused/squandered most of it.
Remember after the 2004 election: re: Bush’s political capital.
All fame is fleeting …
Bush’s job approval rating 25% (10/3/08, 10/10/08, 10/31/08).
Bush also had the highest disapproval rating in presidential history:
71 (10/10/08) Yes Virginia, worse than Nixon or Truman …
One should never misunderestimate George W. Bush!
filistro,
Based on what?
GROG,
Serious question. It’s the same thing I called you out on before. They’re painting conservatives with a particular brush, and none of them are conservative. So, since conservatives are a particularly rare species around here (especially since rgbact seems to have disappeared), I figured you’d be able to provide a more accurate viewpoint.
@Michael… Based on what?
Personal prejudice? Wide reading? Conversations on airplanes?
Who knows what makes all of us think what we do? This is just what *I* think.
(Note that I didn’t say “I know”… but “I think.”)
The problem for Reps in a nutshell:
Self-professed conservatives once they get elected, more often than not, don’t act like self-professed conservatives.
They use it only as a tool to get elected, but governing is quite a different animal, eh.
ie they rail against abortion 24/7, but really don’t want Roe v. Wade overturned.
As Bartles would say ~ Ain’t governing a bitch!
and so it goes …
filistro,
Yes, I did note that. I was just trying to figure out if this was your personal prejudice talking. Sounds like it is. One thing I hope for us to do over time is set aside those personal prejudices as much as possible. We all hold a lot of them.
@Michael… I was just trying to figure out if this was your personal prejudice talking. Sounds like it is. One thing I hope for us to do over time is set aside those personal prejudices as much as possible.
Yes, I am strongly prejudiced against people who try to introduce their religion into politics.
And I doubt if this is a prejudice I will ever “set aside” because I am convinced religion in politics does great harm to any free nation.
filistro,
Sure. You have a negative association with them. I get that. But I doubt you think that most such people are axe murderers. Nor, then, is there any particular reason to assume that most such people are in favor of secular democracies in the Middle East.
@Michael… But I doubt you think that most such people are axe murderers. Nor, then, is there any particular reason to assume that most such people are in favor of secular democracies in the Middle East.
So… only axe murderers are in favor of secular democracies in the ME?
Jeez, who knew?
My experience with the ultra-religious is that, given the right religious justification, and an axe, well, let’s just say that I’d rather not take the chance on them acting rationally…
Michael I live in and around any number of very conservative Christian conservatives. For what ever reason they almost to a person are staunch supporters of Israel but are at best dismissive of local Jews. They are very much in favor of a secular government any where over there if it means Muslims get deminished. A very narrow sampling to be sure and just my experience but it mirrors other comments on here.
Shortchain opined:
My favorite movie pondering this “what if” question is Frailty, starring Bill Paxton as a man who believes that he can see demons and must destroy them in self-defense. Yes, an ax is involved.
It’s a true mind-bending horror movie, in the same way Repulsion is what I would call “true” horror. Not just guys in hockey masks that can’t die, but the idea that your own brain can turn against you and become your enemy.
Speakin’ of Israel,
The idea that Congress would invite a foreign leader to give a speech before a joint session and then receive him rapturously as he tells the President to go screw himself is absolutely shameful. And they wonder why their approval ratings are so low.
I’ve slowly come around to the opinion that our manifest goodwill has been wasted on the Israelis. Maybe letting the UN handle the situation for a year would restore their respect for their American patrons and their willingness to make a genuine peace.
@Michael and Fili,
I for one, believe a free and prosperous people are a peaceful people. I agreed with the Bush administration in that regard and I believe a lot of the uprisings in the Middle East are a result of the United States’ fight against terrorism over the past 10 years.
Bush’s mistake was that he thought this would take months or a couple of years, not a decade. It may take another decade to see how it all plays out.
@GROG.. I for one, believe a free and prosperous people are a peaceful people
I was pretty sure you were one person whose beliefs would not change depending on who was in the White House.
Thank you for once again for confirming my faith in you