Fact-Checking the Romney Campaign
On June 13th, Mitt Romney policy director Lanhee Chen posted a blog on the Romney web site titled “Taxed and Spent: American Workers Suffering Under Obama”. Following is the first paragraph:
President Obama’s policies have failed the American people. And nowhere has this failure been more evident than in this Administration’s handling of our nation’s economy. In the month that President Obama was inaugurated, the unemployment rate was 7.8%, the national debt stood at $10.6 trillion, and the average price for a gallon of gas was $1.83. Today, in the third year of his presidency, unemployment has ballooned to 9.1%, the national debt tops $14 trillion, and Americans are paying double—$3.70 a gallon—for gas.
These numbers are accurate insofar as they go. The Federal Reserve web site shows that the employment rate was 7.8% on January 1st, 2009 and is 9.1% as of May 1st, 2011. Note, however, that the unemployment rate reached 9.4% in May, just four months after Obama was inaugurated, and reached the maximum of 10.1% in October, just nine months after.
As I previously discussed in “Job Growth under Bush and Prior Presidents”, it makes far more sense to allow some time lag for economic policies to take effect and/or to measure that effect over full business cycles. According to the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER), the recession ended in June of 2009. The unemployment rate was 9.5% at that time, and has improved since then. This improvement can be seen in the graph below.
The graph also shows that unemployment was already on a steady rise at the time of the Obama inauguration (red line).
Looking at the numbers on TreasuryDirect, the national debt was about $10.6 trillion on January 20, 2009 and is now about $14.3 trillion. As with the unemployment rate, it makes sense to allow a time lag. The policies for fiscal year 2009, which ended on September 30, 2009, were proposed by President Bush and passed by the existing Congress. The prior link shows the national debt on October 1, 2009, the first year of Obama’s first fiscal year, to have been $11.9 trillion, a full $1.3 trillion above the number given on Romney’s blog. This seems like the earliest point at which Obama’s performance should be measured. As with the unemployment numbers, it can even be argued that the first two years, 2009 and 2010, should to be skipped or ignored as they are heavily affected by prior economic policies.
Finally, the U.S. Energy Information Administration and zFacts both suggest that Romney’s claims regarding the price of gasoline are accurate. But note in the zFacts graph that the price was $4.26 per gallon on July 7, 2008, just a few months before Obama’s inauguration, and happened to have been near a local low at inauguration. In addition, the recent rise is corresponds with the recent conflicts in Libya and other oil-producing states. Thus, it seems difficu
lt to draw any conclusions of Presidential culpability in the change in gas prices.
All of above shows how important it is to look at statistically significant data sets for economic causality, rather than just a few, isolated numbers. This is especially true when the numbers and causal accusations come from a partisan source, who may have cherry-picked or otherwise manipulated them.
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#2 written by rgbact 1 year ago
Reed–
If only it were just oil, we could blame Gaddafi. However:
Fuel price index=109% increase
Food price index=46% increase
Metal price index=118% increase
Raw Material price index=73% increase
That seems pretty significant that its something beyond Libya and evil oil speculators thats causing things to cost more.
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#3 written by rgbact 1 year ago
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#4 written by GROG 1 year ago
President Obama this past Wednesday:
“What I have done — and this is unprecedented, by the way; no administration has done this before — is I’ve said to each agency, ‘Don’t just look at current regulations or don’t just look at future regulations, regulations that we’re proposing. Let’s go backwards and look at regulations that are already on the books and if they don’t make sense, let’s get rid of them.”
This is a completely false claim by the President. In fact, lots of Presidents have done that. This is not a misstatement like Mrs. Bachmann saying John Wayne is from Waterloo, IA. This is a “pants on fire” falsehood according to Politifact. Perhaps understanding our nations history of regulation isn’t quite as important as knowing which Iowa town John Wayne hails from.
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#5 written by Max aka Birdpilot 1 year ago
GROG,
This is not a misstatement like Mrs. Bachmann saying John Wayne is from Waterloo, IA.
That was another thread. You seem to have a habit of bleeding over to other threads when you get thrashed on a previous one. One-trick-pony-itis.
Either keep it on the original thread or contribute something new! Jeesh!
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#6 written by Max aka Birdpilot 1 year ago
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@rgb.. If your best defense of Obama is “it all depends on the meaning of word ‘worse’” and other assorted wordplay.…not sure thats a winner.
I’m not “defending Obama.”
I’m attacking Romney.. and justly so, since Romney’s credibility (such as it is) was the subject of the thread.
If you are unable to distinguish between attack and defense.… not sure that’s a winner
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#8 written by GROG 1 year ago
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#9 written by shortchain 1 year ago
We have two examples of “falsehoods”:
1. Perhaps, if one looks at the record using Heritage Foundation’s, that famously evenhanded organization, criteria, an example of inflating one’s accomplishments
and
2. Making a baldly false claim and then baldly claiming not to have said what we have a record of him saying only a few days earlier
Gosh, absolutely, the two cases are completely the same.
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#12 written by shortchain 1 year ago
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#13 written by Mainer 1 year ago
RG I’m not a commodities expert and I’m not doubting your numbers but I do have a couple of questions. Are these all increases just since Obama took office? You know what time period are they based on? I have repeated the numbers below.
Fuel price index=109% increase
Food price index=46% increase
Metal price index=118% increase
Raw Material price index=73% increase
If we accept the premise that when the president was sworn in the economy was pretty much in free fall and economic activity of all kinds was seriously off not just here but pretty much all over the world wouldn’t we expect that now that there is an increase in manufacturing and economic activity and actual use of raw materials for prices to have at least rebounded to pre recession levels or are these numbers figured from their previous highs? Now I am told that most of the increase in food prices is directly related to fuel costs and speculation in a few things like beef and corn (who knew you could speculate in beef?) corn I understand with the ethanol crap and every farmer around here is getting eaten alive by fuel costs so that looks like a direct link to those damned oil speculators.
The rest of it just looks like an economy starting to function again. Local producers of wood are almost back up to receiving what they were before the economy tanked and would I suspect show about a 60 or 70% increase from what they were getting at the depths of the recession but isn’t that a good thing?
And didn’t recent efforts by the administration to move oil down and maybe warn the speculators get panned by Republicans? Not sure what these numbers tell us.
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GROG cites Politifact as reporting a Pants on Fire lie by President Obama. Here is the President’s overall record on Politifact:
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/
That makes 142 statements that are true or mostly true, 110 statements that are barely true or half true, 49 statements that are false, and 4 “pants on fire” lies in a fairly extensive and public political career. If we are to apply a “pants on fire” percentage, his would be 1.3%. His “truth” percentage (true+mostly true) would be 46.6%, which could be higher, but I’d say “not bad for a politician”.
Rep. Michele Bachmann, who you seem hell-bent on defending at all costs, has a shorter political career in the public spotlight and so a smaller N. However, she has President Obama beat on the raw number of “pants on fire” ratings, with 7. Worse, that’s 25% of what she says. Her truth percentage is 7.1%. In other words, her substantive utterances are about four times as likely to be a Big Whopper lie than a true statement.
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/michele-bachmann/
Mitt Romney’s numbers are not bad, either, coming close to President Obama’s. His “true+mostly true” percentage is 46.2%, virtually identical to the President’s, and his “pants on fire” percentage is below 8%, about six times the President’s but he has time to make that up with a bout of truth-telling in the upcoming campaign. That is, when Romney makes a public utterance, he’s about six times as likely to be telling some version of the truth as he is to be giving forth a “pants on fire” lie.
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/mitt-romney/
Perhaps from this comparison, GROG, you can see why it is we criticize Rep. Bachmann so harshly — since you brought up her Waterloo statement (irony alert!) which you’re still inexplicably sore about.
Thanks for playing. Here’s a copy of our home game.
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@Treme.. Rep. Michele Bachmann, who you seem hell-bent on defending at all costs
To be fair to GROG (who, as everybody knows, is a favorite of mine
)… I don’t think he’s “hell-bent on defending” Bachmann. It’s BART who maniacally (and indefensibly) defends her. He has to. She’s a Tea Party darling, and Bart, by default, must..always… defend… all… things… Teaper…It’s what Bart does. He has no choice. They programmed it into the hard drive when they built him.
GROG, on the other hand, gets exercised over what he perceives as overly-harsh leftie attacks on conservative women in general. But I don’t think he believes we’re a bunch of unfair and nasty misogynists. I think that, deep down in his Groggy depths, he believes lefties get their noses out of joint when the right chooses women or minorities as candidates, because the left thinks:
a.) it’s hypocritical, and just a cynical attempt at vote-getting
b.) women and minorities are OUR voters, dammit!I think there may be at least a grain of truth in GROG’s position.
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This is a thread about fact checking Romney. In fairness, I’m sure you agree it is appropriate to point our false statements by Obama as well.
No grog, that would be deflection. But in fairness to grog, deflection is basically grog’s only debate style. Which is why he asks many deflecting, nonsensical, non-relevant questions …
ie the Republican, in particular Bartles, debate style since Obama announced for president in 2007: but, but, but Obama !!!
As they quickly try to disassociate themselves from (8) years of cheney/bush!
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And don’t “we” all long for the good old days of but, but, but Carter/Clinton when America’s debt and deficits were quite reasonable …
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#17 written by GROG 1 year ago
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#19 written by rgbact 1 year ago
Mainer–
I’m not an expert either but I got the numbers from:
http://www.indexmundi.com/commodities/
Overall, if you look at long term prices, they seem much higher than you’d expect, even if you account for the late-2008 collapse.
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#20 written by Mainer 1 year ago
rgb, thanks for the link. Lot to look at there and I have book marked it for a day when I have more time. After looking at it though I am sticking by some of what I opined. Oh you can forget my beef concept on food prices the numbers certainly don’t fit there. I also don’t get the softwood numbers but then the lumber market is odd any way so who knows. I would at this point stick to my fuel/oil connections with much of food price increases and possibly some grain speculation but just don’t know that much about it. The numbers do look higher in some areas than expected. Wish I knew more about this stuff.
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fili summarizes the leftie position on Rep. Bachmann and other Republican women thusly:
a.) it’s hypocritical, and just a cynical attempt at vote-getting
b.) women and minorities are OUR voters, dammit!Now that we know it’s GROG’s position, I agree with fili. It’s not only a grain of truth, I think it gets to the core of the issue.
As a feminist of long standing and an “unabashed liberal” (as described in my bio), I am appalled that women like Michele Bachmann are (as I see it) trading on the hard work done by feminists in the 20th century. Not only that, but turning it on its head, and using their sexuality to gain political power that the same anti-feminist philosophy would say they shouldn’t have at all.
That is, they’re running for office so they can force women to bear children they don’t want and stay married to men that don’t love them just to achieve some 1950s ideal of home and hearth that never really existed in the first place, outside of “Leave It to Beaver”. “This sort of power is fine for me, but I’m working hard outside the home so you can’t.”
Yes, I find that cynical and hypocritical.
Still, I respect GROG’s position and I think it’s fair that he wants me to make it explicit. So there. I made it explicit.
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My dislike of Bachmann and Palin is slightly different. They seem to be intentionally cultivating a sex-symbol image. It’s manipulative — “Vote for my boobs!” This political softcore porn is supposed to substitute for things like knowledge and thought. And those who point out the shallowness of this intentionally-constructed image are then criticized for being unduly harsh on conservative women, simply because they’re women. No; for me at least, I’m harsh on manipulative stupidity — this game of substituting glandular reactions for intelligent discourse — and I don’t think it’s undue harshness.
Admittedly, part of the reason I find this so offensive may be that I don’t see what people actually like about Palin or Bachmann. I’m told many people find them sexy. I just don’t see it myself. Maybe if they were the sort of women I had caveman fantasies about, my reaction might be different. But they aren’t, and I don’t, and it’s not.
I don’t approve of using sex to make stupidity acceptable. I value sex much more than that. I guess there’s my bottom line.
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#29 written by Armchair Warlord 1 year ago
rgb,
Commodity prices are set through the actions of global markets — there is very little the US government as a whole can do about them, let alone the President. I’d suspect that the still-inflating Chinese real estate bubble (which, when it goes, will be like the Apocalypse) and long-term trends towards global scarcity of resources are driving commodity prices up. Neither of these was really dampened by the western world housing crash of 2008.
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#30 written by Mainer 1 year ago
Mono, I know the housing bubble here had a huge effect on the sawmill industry, which up here has a huge ripple effect to trucking, logging, forresters, and the various other support industries. Mills closed all over the place. Those that survived are actually quite busy and they are paying some of the best log prices in years and if you have been to the lumber yard recently you will see that the price of most building materials are way up but it just does not seem to be reflected in the link rgb found for us. Again I don’t question the numbers I am just confused by some of them. But it gives me a reason to do some digging and try to learn.
With Palin and Bachmann I just find them distractions at a time when we need every one to have some clear focus. Their constant harping on crap they know not about is just making the rest of the Republican field look that much worse and seems to cause them to have to take ever more radical positions because the sisters of calamity have yet again riled up the base into mob frenzy that they seem to feel they must appease.
I come from a state that has had some pretty sharp women in politics so I kind of know the difference when I see it even if I can’t define it.
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I come from a state that has had some pretty sharp women in politics so I kind of know the difference when I see it even if I can’t define it.
Yes, Mainer. Sen. Margaret Chase Smith, for example. They apparently don’t make ‘em like that anymore, although Sens. Snowe and Collins have come close and could still show us some spine against McCarthy-like demagogery.
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#32 written by Mainer 1 year ago
Sen. Smith came from just 30 miles over the road. Her library is a wonderful place to visit. Collins and Snowe have had their moments and I would like to think that the teattack on them (Snowe will be primaried) may make them remember that their strength has always been moderate Republicans, conservative leaning and moderate Indies and a fair number of Democrats. It has never been the radical right and some of their actions to appease that group have not set well. But we shall see how they decide to play it. Hell even our looney tunes teaper Gov. knows better than butt heads with Sen. Snowe and has said so in one of his rare bouts with lucidity.
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I think we’ve covered this before, maybe on one of the previous blogs, but of course my ancestors come from the Farmington/Industry area as well.
My surname is unusual elsewhere in the country but quite common there. When I went to visit and do some genealogy there in 2004 (landed in Boston on Election Day 2004), I started to spell my name for the desk clerk at the motel (as I always do when I make a reservation on the phone) and she acted like I was some sort of loon. She probably had the same last name.
It is really something to see your ancestor’s grave (he died 1838) near the fields he tilled and the lumber he cleared in the late 18th and early 19th centuries.
My ancestors were those type of Republicans. It makes me sad to see what the party of Margaret Chase Smith has become.
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@Treme… My surname is unusual elsewhere in the country but quite common there.
So somewhere in New England there are whole pockets of citizens with the family name “Echidna?”
Aculeatus. It’s Greek.
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Larry Kudlow, who likes being optimistic, is straying off the Republican doom ‘n’ gloom talking points, and beginning to see some hope for the economy in Q3 and 4.
Huge bull week for stocks. The Dow was up nearly 6 percent, roughly 650 points. And it could be signaling a market forecast of a second-half economic rebound from the less-than 2 percent sputter in the first half. Triggering this week’s rally, Greece default is off the table for now, Japanese auto production is picking up (so the supply-chain-shortage problem for the U.S. may ease), and the U.S. ISM manufacturing index slightly beat estimates (though the internal components were not fabulous).
Of course there are qualifiers in his piece, but it does make you wonder… if the economy starts to rebound strongly early in 2012, and we see big and growing employment numbers through the winter and into spring… what on earth are the Republicans going to campaign on? Gay marriage and school prayer?
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rgbact,
If only it were just oil, we could blame Gaddafi. However:
Fuel price index=109% increase
Food price index=46% increase
Metal price index=118% increase
Raw Material price index=73% increase
That seems pretty significant that its something beyond Libya and evil oil speculators thats causing things to cost more.A couple of points. First, as you can see in the graph at http://www.indexmundi.com/commodities/, the commodities that you mentioned all hit highs in 2008 and fell to lows around the time of Obama’s inauguration. Hence, some of their rise was a recovery from a sharp drop. Following are your figures from Obama’s inauguration to present:
Commodity Start Date Index End Date Index Percent Change
Fuel Jan 2009 95.00 May 2011 198.72 109%
Food Jan 2009 127.89 May 2011 187.01 46%
Metals Jan 2009 109.66 May 2011 239.46 118%
Ag Raw Mat Jan 2009 89.82 May 2011 155.63 73%And following are the figures measured from the prior high in 2008 to present:
Commodity Start Date Index End Date Index Percent Change
Fuel Jul 2008 249.41 May 2011 198.72 –20%
Food Jun 2008 179.71 May 2011 187.01 4%
Metals Mar 2008 201.07 May 2011 239.46 19%
Ag Raw Mat Jul 2008 121.96 May 2011 155.63 28%As you can see, the gains are much less when measured from the prior peak. Metals and Raw Materials do still have healthy gains of 19% of 28%. As the graph shows, however, metals have been in a 10-year bull market so this can’t be blamed on Obama. That just leaves Raw Materials.
Still, someone might point to the fact that commodities staged their turnaround at about the time of Obama’s inauguration. However, a much more likely cause of the turnaround was the start of quantitative easing in late November of 2008. This possibility has been raised by a number of articles, including this one.
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#39 written by Wally 1 year ago
Sorry for going back to the start of this but I feel a couple of things need saying:
From Filistro’s post:
“Obama didn’t create the recession, but he made it worse and longer.”
“You continue to say that the economy is worse, but unemployment is lower than it was in 2009, the stock market was tumbling and it’s now above 12,000, and it is growing slowly, we just had a two percent gain this last quarter. So how can you continue to say that things are worse when they really aren’t worse?”Those are two very different statements. Its quite possible that A) Obama made the recession worse and B) we are slowly coming out of the recession. In fact, the two points work together quite well. A 2% gain in GDP is actually quite awful when coming out of a recession.
Mariner on commodity prices:
“The rest of it just looks like an economy starting to function again.”One could attempt to prove that beyond just a simple statement. So, if your theory is the commodity prices are being set by the overall output of the economy, then that because the economy is recovering the commodity prices should be rising roughly to that scale. Correct?
Well, in real dollars, our economic GDP is about $14.66 Billion, compared to $14.05B in 2007, a change of just 4.3%. From the IMF’s commodity index, they peg all commodities (including things like food, oil, metals and other raw materials) at 190.4 through the first quarter of 2011 (in May they had it at 198!), while in 2007 it was 135.1. That’s an increase of 40.9%. Now commodities are tricky. I don’t really know how that 40.9% relates in real dollars, and just looking at the real prices is highly confusing, as many commodities are 60% what they used to be, while others are 200%. But, any which way you look at it, I don’t think its good. We have 9.1% unemployed, or total GDP is barely over what it was in 2007, and commodities are certainly noticeably more expensive than the before the recession. Thus the perpetuation of the idea of an “L” shaped recovery, or even stagflation, taking hold.
DC:
“My dislike of Bachmann and Palin is slightly different. They seem to be intentionally cultivating a sex-symbol image. It’s manipulative — “Vote for my boobs!” This political softcore porn is supposed to substitute for things like knowledge and thought.”
I don’t see that in the least, and I don’t like either of them. What I see in statements like this is people seeing an attractive woman, who they don’t agree with, and looking for ways to try to knock her down. -
@Wally… I don’t see that in the least, and I don’t like either of them. What I see in statements like this is people seeing an attractive woman, who they don’t agree with, and looking for ways to try to knock her down.
I agree with you on Bachmann’s image, Wally. I don’t think she uses her femaleness or sex appeal to get ahead in politics. She is a woman of some dignity. (For instance I can’t imagine her winking or flirting the way Palin does.) And I think she is genuinely trying to be a serious candidate with a grasp of the issues. I just dislike her extremism, but I don’t think she’s “cultivating a sex-symbol” image. At least I haven’t seen it. On the other hand, DC lives in her home state and may have seen another side of her that we have not.
Palin has nothing substantial at all. She has two arrows in her quiver.. rabble-rousing and sex appeal. They’ve taken her quite far already… but she’ll go no further.
And with regard to Romney’s statement… do you think Obama “made the recession worse?”
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#41 written by Wally 1 year ago
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Reed became interested in U.S. budget and economic matters back in 1992, the first time that he remembers the debt becoming a major issue in a presidential election. On that subject, he maintains a blog on the US budget, and a companion website.







Mitt Romney, 2nd debate, June 12: “Obama didn’t create the recession, but he made it worse and longer.”
Mitt Romney, New Hampshire, June 27: “The people of New Hampshire have waited long enough. They want to see good jobs. They want to see rising incomes. They want to see an economy that’s growing again, and the president’s failed. He did not cause this recession, but he made it worse.”
Mitt Romney in press interview June 30:
KROLL: “You continue to say that the economy is worse, but unemployment is lower than it was in 2009, the stock market was tumbling and it’s now above 12,000, and it is growing slowly, we just had a two percent gain this last quarter. So how can you continue to say that things are worse when they really aren’t worse?”
ROMNEY: “I didn’t say that things are worse.”