Florida’s Primary Election

Florida 2008 Republican Primary results. Intensity of color is scaled to vote percentage. Color code: blue, McCain; green, Romney; orange, Huckabee. Giuliani and Paul competed but did not win any counties. Source: US Election Atlas
Florida was among the states setting off a chain reaction of earlier and earlier primary and caucus dates this year. The Republican-dominated Florida Legislature’s decision to move the primary to January 31, 2012 — today — resulted in the most severe penalties possible from the Republican National Committee, including the loss of half of the state’s 100 delegates, lousy hotel rooms, bad seating and fewer VIP passes. (The hotel room issue sounds minor, but anyone who has attended a huge, high-security convention knows that having a close-in hotel is a major perk.) To add insult to injury, Tampa, Florida is the site of this year’s Republican convention, August 27–30.
It’s a redux of the 2008 election cycle, where both parties penalized the Florida delegation.
Update Tuesday evening 1⁄31: Preliminary results with about 3⁄4 of the vote counted are shown at right. Counties won by Gingrich are in red; counties won by Romney in orange.
The Democrats stayed away by mutual consent, and a major battle ensued at the convention over the penalized delegates in Florida and Michigan, a battle Hillary Clinton lost, as she lost the nomination. On the Republican side, the outcome was clear, and the delegates were allowed voting privileges again when the outcome was already established to be Senator John McCain.
Intrade sees this as an easy win for former Massachusetts Governor Willard “Mitt” Romney, giving him a 98 percent chance of a win at this writing. Also competing are former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, former Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA), and Congressman Ron Paul (R-Lake Jackson, TX).
The most recent polls have Romney up by as many as 20 percentage points (Insider Advantage). Suffolk University has Romney up five. Other polls from this weekend (Quinnipiac, PPP, NBC News/Marist, Miami Herald/Mason-Dixon, Rasmussen) fall between this high and low, but all show a substantial lead for Romney. The Real Clear Politics “poll of polls” has Romney at +12.5.
Reportedly, Gingrich is already looking past Florida. Look he might, but he shouldn’t expect much help from the calendar. In February, Maine, Nevada, Colorado and Minnesota will hold caucuses, most of them non-binding, early in the month. There is a gap, then on February 28, Arizona and Michigan will hold primaries. Note that Nevada Republicans are particularly well represented by Mormons, and Michigan is Romney’s home state.
In the end, Florida may have done what they intended by jumping the gun, becoming the de facto “decider” of the 2012 Republican nominee.
Related articles
- Florida and the politics of delegates (politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com)
- Mitt Romney Poised For String of Victories (usnews.com)
- Late polls show Romney in Florida lead — CNN (edition.cnn.com)
- Over 600,000 have already voted in Florida primary (politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com)
- Newt Gingrich vows to press on regardless of Florida outcome (dailykos.com)
- Mitt Romney set to beat Newt Gingrich by double digits in Florida | Harry J Enten (guardian.co.uk)
- Signs Of A Big Romney Win In Florida (outsidethebeltway.com)

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#2 written by clmbusboy1 1 year ago
I did vote today at my Miami polling place. (As an independent we did have 2 ballot measures.) Obviously it’s very anecdotal, but poll workers informed me that turnout at this precinct was higher than expected. So there is some energy in my neck of the woods consisting of mostly Cuban Americans.
I disagree with Mainer about the barrage of ads. Sure there have been a lot, but it does not seem like nearly as much as ’08. I have also yet to see a yard sign for anyone, no Rs and no Obama.
I do agree with Mainer that none of the 4 remaining contestants are liked by a large percentage of voters. Though that includes Obama as well.
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#4 written by Rose 1 year ago
I was listening to an interesting Public Radio discussion of political TV ads. They pointed out that many under 30s get all of their news from the internet and rarely watch non-cable TV. That means that all these attack ads don’t reach this population of prospective voters, yet TV time is expensive and it’s an easy way to show wealthy donors what was done with their money.
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#5 written by shortchain 1 year ago
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#7 written by shortchain 1 year ago
Michael,
I tried several times. It just bounced me. Of course, I’m not in google+ (privacy issues prevent me from signing up for it).
Ah. It works in chrome. I hate the appearance of chrome — it doesn’t let me use fonts that my tired old eyes can easily read. But I guess I can manage for the map.Thanks.
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#14 written by Mainer 1 year ago
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Exit poll data:
Romney got 56% of hispanic voters.
Paul’s usual strong suit in the 18–29 age group continues; it was the group he did best with. But he was beaten by Romney even in this group. And it was only 5% of voters anyway.
Romney took half of the 65+ year olds.
As usual, Romney did very well among the $200k+/year crowd: 65%. But he beat all the others in every income group. Ron Paul had been doing much better in the <$50k group in the past. Not so much in Florida.
Gingrich did best among those who self-described as “very conservative” (about a third of voters), by a 13-point spread. Romney did best with the rest, particularly self-described “moderates”.
Evangelicals narrowly preferred Gingrich over Romney…by four points. They made up a little over a third of voters.
Jews made up a mere one percent of Republican voters today.
The more strongly a voter opposes abortion, the more likely the voter supports Gingrich or Santorum. The less strongly the oppose it, the more likely to support Romney or Paul.
Interestingly, the six percent who felt that abortion was the most important issue chose Gingrich over Santorum. Unsurprisingly, the 52% who felt that the economy was the most important issue chose Romney over Gingrich.
Those who were looking for a candidate who can beat Obama (45% of voters) overwhelmingly preferred Romney…by a 25-point margin. The 13 percent who wanted a “true conservative” put Romney at the bottom of the list, preferring Gingrich over all others.
39% of voters wish they had someone else in the race to choose from.
Gingrich’s favorable/unfavorable was 54⁄41. Romney’s was 74⁄23.
Unlike the previous states, people claimed to have chosen their candidate long ago. This is strange to me, given the recent rise and fall of Gingrich in the polls.
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#17 written by Jean 1 year ago
Here’s CNN exit polling:
http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/primaries/epolls/fl -
#18 written by Mainer 1 year ago
Most likely Michael but I think it might have narrowed the gap. What Newt didn’t get was the rural voters (there were not many apparently) that he did so well with in SC. I also would be worried if I were them about the paucity of Jewish voters in Florida and are the Hispanic numbers less than might have been expected? With other minorities forget it. Just wondering about the age make up. I know Florida is retirement central but those numbers seem very badly skewed.
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#19 written by shortchain 1 year ago
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#20 written by Jean 1 year ago
Ideal outcome tonight: Newt gets enough votes to stay in, but loses badly enough to become FURIOUS NEGATIVE AD HULK NEWT! #popcorn
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Mainer,
are the Hispanic numbers less than might have been expected?
They make up 23% of Floridians, but only 14% of voting Republicans. I think they’re still more in the D column in Florida, though not like African-Americans, who are almost exclusively Democrats.
Just wondering about the age make up.
About 20% of Floridians of voting age are 65+, but that doesn’t really tell us as much as it might seem. But it does look, at first blush, like they’re overrepresented in this primary.
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#23 written by Mainer 1 year ago
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I’ve added a map of the results to the parent post. This is as of about 10 pm EST, with about 3⁄4 of the vote counted, but with Romney holding a huge lead I think it will stick.
I’m impressed with the total lack of correspondence between the 2008 and 2012 maps. Romney lost some counties west of Jacksonville, around Lake City, that he won in 2008. Gingrich did much better in the panhandle but in 2008 the panhandle was split between Huckabee, McCain and Romney. Now, except for Pensacola, it’s mostly Gingrich territory.
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The saddest part of this for me is that Newt Gingrich was the champion of the Kennedy legacy of space exploration. I suppose if I was a Romney strategist, rather than merely ridicule Newt on that, I would have tried to link Gingrich to Kennedy. But then, I don’t like Romney, and I would have suggested it for the purpose fo galvanizing Democrats.
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#26 written by Jean 1 year ago
Do you think Mitt knows he’s “élite”? I wonder if he’s had self-awareness software installed.
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#27 written by Jean 1 year ago
Ha! Funny comment from over at redstate:
As long as I’m saying unpopular things, can I admit to being tired of the 57 states joke? The explanation that he was trying to say they had visited 47 of the 50 states but stumbled over it makes sense, and when we have to keep going back to a 4 year old slip of the tongue it makes it seem like we’re desperate. Libs had a new Bush saying every month or so.
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#28 written by Mainer 1 year ago
I would wager that Mitt will take many wrong lessons learned away this night. Like he can’t win rural areas. Newt did bst in them in NH and Mitt won the burbs, same in Florida. Newt got the very rural and redneck teaper villes, Mitt appears to have won in every major community and the Everglades where I suppose some pundit has already made a comment on the reptilian vote. Also the more major the area is for rtirement communities the better he did and DC sorry dude but Mitt wonthe space coast too. That the nastier the ad the better you do, watch Mitt get a seriouscase of the ass coming out of this. Hard to tell if Newt will because what would one compre it to?
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Newt taking his victory speech, attacking the “élite media” and the “Massachusetts moderate.” The man is incredibly arrogant even when he is far behind.
He invokes Lincoln (surprise!) and says that “people power” will defeat “money power.” He sounds like an Occupy Wall Street radical liberal. (Will his fanbois notice? I don’t think so.) He even attacks Wall Street. This is a conservative Republican??!?!
Attacking President Obama with no details, just blather.
Preaching hatred of the Party establishment(s). He is not going to win many endorsements from currently-elected Republicans.
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#31 written by Rose 1 year ago
Newt now claims that he will prevail over Mitt because “people power will beat money power.” He will beat Obama with a “people’s campaign”.
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#33 written by Mainer 1 year ago
Jean is the mood at red state up or down with this Romney win? Had a friend call a little bit ago from the land of fruits and nuts and he thinks Santorum killed Newt. Hmmmmm if Santorum wasn’t there would Newt have been the only alternative for that group? I don’t see them going to Mitt or Paul.
Still thinking about the convention. It is in Florida and they have lost the best hotel rooms, one half their delegates and probably will feed their Republican teaper govenor to the swamp critters before they let him in the convention center. It should be fun. -
#34 written by mclever 1 year ago
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#35 written by Mainer 1 year ago
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#36 written by Jean 1 year ago
Comments from redstate:
–The Tea Party movement is dead, the conservative movement is dead, America is dead if Mitt Romney is the nominee.
–I am not sure people can connect with Romney. People still like Obama and would like to shoot hoops with him, and people always wanted to go to a ball game with Bush or a strip club with Clinton. Romney just doesn’t have that quality.
–Newt cannot win with women and would lose the general. Most moderate or independent women will not vote for the mistress to be First Lady. Petty but it’s true.
–VP choice is huge! I got excited about the last ticket when Palin came on.
–It’s my belief that the longer Newt Gingrich stays in this and gets face time on tv news (which he’s very good at getting), even as the loser, the more the voters of American associate the GOP with Newt…and that is BAD news for beating Barry.
–I want it to go on longer so Romney locks in as supporting things we would want him to do once in office. The shorter the primary, the more moderate guy we are nominating with him. He’ll screw us if we don’t force Romney to unambiguously commit to us.
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#37 written by Mainer 1 year ago
jean that last comment is exactly what I have been saying. They want to push who ever the winner is so far right and then hold him there not thinking that the more right hegets the less chance they have. With them it is all or nothing and the first commenter had all but the last of that right. Boy they are into submission aren’t they. I get the feeling that some of those folks don’t understand how government is supposed to work.
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#38 written by Jean 1 year ago
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#39 written by shortchain 1 year ago
I’ve heard from more than one person (that doesn’t include Newt, who repeats it incessantly) that Republican candidates only win when they are “true conservatives”.
It’s a kind of mass self hypnotic suggestion to buy into a weird form of the “no true Scotsman” fallacy. Which they really want to believe. So they’re susceptible to falling for it when they tell each other.
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#40 written by Jean 1 year ago
Newt will now tell us how he will defeat Saul Alinsky. #p2 #FLPrimary
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#41 written by Mainer 1 year ago
You know Jean I know Santorum will continue on and he has had his moments and he does have some money now because of the infusion from that Texas movement group but the evangelicals have to be not very up right now. They couldn’t get Huck last time, they really had no one this time other than a forelorn hope with Santorum and now they are going to get Melmac Mitt the Mormon Marauder. Has to be demoralizing at some level. The Paulites had to know they were pushing a rope but that is a labor of.….…some thing to them and it seems to transend politics. Now we will have to see how far those Catholic Bishops that went over the edge on the president this last weekend will want to ride with the Mitt.
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#42 written by Jean 1 year ago
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#43 written by Mainer 1 year ago
Shorts but that is part of the problem. They are not running conservatives they are running reactionaries, they are running wanna be neocons, they are running theocratics, they are running wanna be Libetarians. If they actually got what they wanted they wouldn’t elect him or her because they don’t actually want what they profess to prefer.
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#44 written by shortchain 1 year ago
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#45 written by Mainer 1 year ago
Jean I kind of saw that coming. Local evangelicals are pretty down if they were really into this. Many of them were pretty up afte the last election but most in this state think it was a one and done. Hard to say about other places but there has been a crap load of money pulled from the flock and many of them didn’t have it to start with. Maybe grumpy would be a better term around here some of them feel a little used.
ohhhh Mitt by 14% had a bet with a friend that Newt could get with in 10 to 12% oh well. Close. You know considering how much effort and money Mitt put into Florida and much of it before Newt had any thing to fight back with, Newt did make this a fight. If some people are serious about slowing down Mitt at least they need to ditch Santorum and take one last push with Newt.……but probably too little too late. -
#46 written by Jean 1 year ago
redstate comments:
–EE, if Newt wins, we lose the WH. We might lose it anyway, but no way that bull-dogged face Newt and his platinum toy (which is how America will view them) can win votes. No way, no how. They feel about Newt the way they felt about Sarah, for different reasons. The GOP is becoming the ‘weird party” to a lot of indies and Dems.
–Obama will appear to have much more support, but people will pull the lever against him in the private voting booth.
–Common Cents is spot on. Obama will have “verbal” support and at exit polls but many people won’t pull the lever for Obama.
And they’re counting the votes as Romney v non-Romney ( Santorum, Gingrich, Paul):
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#47 written by Jean 1 year ago
Mainer
Team Romney spent 1.5 as much as the entire GOP field spent in FL in 08 on TV. $10m in 08 versus $15m just for Romney in 12. Â
— @billburton716 via Twitter for BlackBerry®
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#49 written by Jean 1 year ago
I would estimate that about 3⁄4 of redstate is “Anybody But Romney”, so now of course, they are all on Newt’s bandwagon .… after having to give up on Bachmann and then Perry. But even then, they were never for Santorum, who you’d think would be their ideal candidate.
Apparently what has become important to the teaper crowd is the presentation, not the substance. And Newt’s presentation –especially in SC — has been that he can whip Obama’s butt in the numerous (according to Newt) Presidential debates.
And on a perhaps not unrelated subject, David Brooks mentioned on The PBS Newshour last week that the education level of registered Republicans continues to decline from election cycle to election cycle.
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#50 written by Jean 1 year ago
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#51 written by Mainer 1 year ago
The boy is certainly blowing through some money. At that rate he would only need around a billion dollars in the general.….give or take a few hundred million. And that just for tv time. I think I read that he was on a pace to spend 100 million or more to get the nomination. What kind of money was spent by McCain or Obama to get the nomination in 08? Any one know?
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Mac,
I don’t think there are updated figures. We’ll probably get something in the next week or so. Here is a Politico report from 1⁄22:
A USA Today report that is more recent:
The Center for Responsive Politics seems to be on top of spending, and refers obliquely to a reporting deadline next week:
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2012/01/social-media.html
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#53 written by Jean 1 year ago
Erick Erickson has already put up the his redstate summary of the FL primary results:
” I were a national Republican operative, I’d be very worried about tonight. If I were a Mitt Romney fan, I’d be ecstatic.
The Romney win in Florida was huge. He won the hispanic vote. He split tea party activists and evangelicals. He won where people live. Gingrich won the panhandle and largely tied in the few northern Florida population centers, but it was Romney’s night.
He is on the way toward the nomination. The fat lady is warming up. But it is not a done deal yet. He still has a fractured base and lost the heart of the base. He has trouble with tea party activists and evangelicals though he roughly tied with Gingrich in capturing their support, and he has trouble with strong conservatives. Nonetheless, his get out the vote operation was a phenomenal success and the 15 to 1 advertising ratio in his favor clinched it for him. Ron Brownstein also has a solid analysis on Romney’s win at http://www.nationaljournal.com/2012-presidential-campaign/how-romney-came-back-in-florida-20120131?page=1?mrefid=election2012
It is worth nothing that in the last week of the race only 0.1% of advertising was pro-Romney and roughly 70% was anti-Gingrich.
The panhandle held for Gingrich, which is more typical of a number of upcoming primaries than the rest of the state.
Here’s why I’d be nervous if I were a GOP operative. Turn out, at first projected to exceed 2008′s primary level, turned out to be less than 2008. 57% of Republican voters said they want a different choice. That does not spell excitement or unity headed into November. Republicans can only wave the Supreme Court in front of the base for so long.”
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#54 written by Mainer 1 year ago
Actually Michael it is just as likely and maybe more so that individuals will go in the booth and pull the Obama lever before they will take the Mitt plunge. Not the ones that couldn’t vote for a Democrat under any circumstance but the ones that may have blustered and flustered but that have been watching how well the last 2 years haven’t played out. Some people have just about so many protest votes in them to count on it happening again is forelorn hope.
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#55 written by curious jane 1 year ago
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#57 written by Mainer 1 year ago
Hell Jean they can’t wave the Supreme Court as a rallying flag the same now because they have belittled it so much they have made it seem to not matter. Good lord Newt and Perry have flat out said they would ignore it or in the case of Newt arrest it or other judges he didn’t agree with. The jerks that wave the constitution the most believe in it the least. They have made a joke of congress, and wait until the ad spending numbers get out there Citizens United will be part of the election and the left and moderates do get the importance of the court and undoing some of their damage.
Mitt and his Pacs will now go all in all the time on total negative and they will take tonights lesson and wish to apply it to the president. To be seemingly effective they will need to plough new ground in crude, dishonest and even viscious. We may yet see an American electorate so turned off by such actions that many things could happen. The Democrats again eed a 50 state plan. Calling Dr. Dean. -
#58 written by Mainer 1 year ago
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#60 written by Mainer 1 year ago
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#61 written by Jean 1 year ago
Mainer, I think they’re referring to the likelihood that if Obama is re-elected he will have the opportunity to appoint at least 2 and possibly more Supreme Court justices. That is what they use to threaten anyone who says they’ll stay home. They’re still rabidly trying overturn Roe v Wade — and feel they need just 1 or 2 more SC justices to do so. And they’re probably right.
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Wow Michael you can tell what version browser we are using?
The webmaster knows all! MUAHAHAHAH!
As I have no idea what Iam usingfor a browser (Yes I know Internet Explorer but not what number) how do I do that?
You could install either FireFox or Chrome. Or upgrade your IE to the latest version.
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#63 written by Jean 1 year ago
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#64 written by Jean 1 year ago
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#65 written by Mainer 1 year ago
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#66 written by Jean 1 year ago
Mainer,
Wow Michael you can tell what version browser we are using?
I work for online for one of the major telecoms and we can also tell not only which specific browser the customer is using, but also can tell the IP address (for example, can tell when a customer is chatting in from a military facility in Iraq, a customer with service in the USA but is chatting in from Europe or a customer chatting in from home, but who uses comcast internet instead of our internet. There really is not much privacy online.
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#67 written by Mainer 1 year ago
Oh great Jean that should make me sleep better. I do quite a bit of stuff around the maritime environment and a big concern is cyber security, cargo identity or mis identity gaining control of camera systems and such. Never thought one wayto do it would be straight through a telcom. Great just great.
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#68 written by Jean 1 year ago
Mainer,Maybe I wasn’t clear enough. This has nothing at all to do specifically with a telecom; that just happens to be where I see the other side of the picture. Browser and IP address is information that anyone who has a website, blog or anything else online (browsers, search engines, etc.) has and is information necessary in order to be able to function in an online environment.
The backbone of the internet that the telecoms own is very proprietary and is NOT public nor information ever provided to the public.
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A man was walking down the street and noticed a fellow sitting on his door step hitting himself in the head with a claw hammer. Noticing the behavior did not seem to be stopping he approached the fellow and asked, “Sir why are you doing that?” to which the individual replied, “I’m doing this because it feels so good when I stop.“
According to friends living in Florida that is how many of them feel right now about the whole primary down there. They are sick to death of the constant barrage of caustic ads, bickering and general tone of the whole process. According to one snow bird friend he and most of his retirement cohorts have simply shut off or avoid any local radio or television stations it has become so bad.
I wonder if any one ever looks into the collateral damage these things do to the candidates that eventually get the nomination? Several of these folks I know could vote down there. I’m not hearing any love for these candidates that have assaulted their peace and quiet with what can only be called political noise pollution. But what can one expect from snow bird Republican moderates? What I find most interesting is that out of the 4 I have talked to down there 2 like Ron Paul, one misses Herman Cain and one has declared a pox on all of them.