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		<title>By: filistro</title>
		<link>http://www.logarchism.com/2012/08/10/open-mic-august-10/comment-page-3/#comment-35786</link>
		<dc:creator>filistro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;@Treme... &lt;i&gt;Does any­one think &lt;a href=&quot;http://thehill.com/video/campaign/242235-conservative-group-runs-ad-questioning-obama-birth-certificate&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; will&#160;work?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Freepers have been all over this. They &lt;i&gt;love&lt;/i&gt; this stuff. There&#039;s a whole section at Freeperville that is dedicated, all day every day, to discussion about birtherism, including posts that run to 1,000 comments of excruciating minutiae about the microscopic forged layers on the long form birth certificate and endless study of old photos of the Dunham family proving that Obama was really sired by his grandfather in an incestuous relationship with his mother, was really sired by Malcolm X and a Lebanese actress named Valerie Sufar and given to the Dunham family to raise, was really sired by Frank Marshall Davis in a 3-way sex orgy with Ann Dunham, Frank Davis and his wife... etc etc etc&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have noticed an interesting pattern over time, though. Birtherism waxes when Obama is in the ascendancy and the Freepers feel gloomy about their chances, and wanes when they are hopeful. It&#039;s a more accurate gauge than watching polls. Over the weekend with the Ryan pick, they are feeling so giddily hopeful that the birther forum has all but shut down.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think they hate Obama so much and are in such desapir over the vagaries of a democracy that would foist him on the country, that when he is riding high they grasp at the birther straw as the only way to bring him down.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;]]></description>
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<p>@Treme… <i>Does any­one think <a href="http://thehill.com/video/campaign/242235-conservative-group-runs-ad-questioning-obama-birth-certificate" rel="nofollow">this</a> will work?</i></p>
<p>The Freepers have been all over this. They <i>love</i> this stuff. There’s a whole section at Freeperville that is dedicated, all day every day, to discussion about birtherism, including posts that run to 1,000 comments of excruciating minutiae about the microscopic forged layers on the long form birth certificate and endless study of old photos of the Dunham family proving that Obama was really sired by his grandfather in an incestuous relationship with his mother, was really sired by Malcolm X and a Lebanese actress named Valerie Sufar and given to the Dunham family to raise, was really sired by Frank Marshall Davis in a 3-way sex orgy with Ann Dunham, Frank Davis and his wife… etc etc etc</p>
<p>I have noticed an interesting pattern over time, though. Birtherism waxes when Obama is in the ascendancy and the Freepers feel gloomy about their chances, and wanes when they are hopeful. It’s a more accurate gauge than watching polls. Over the weekend with the Ryan pick, they are feeling so giddily hopeful that the birther forum has all but shut down.</p>
<p>I think they hate Obama so much and are in such desapir over the vagaries of a democracy that would foist him on the country, that when he is riding high they grasp at the birther straw as the only way to bring him down.</p>
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		<title>By: mclever</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 12:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;@Monotreme&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think it&#039;s the sort of thing that only converts the already converted. The only people crying about Obama&#039;s birth certificate are those who already think any Democrat is an illegitimate President.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nor will such an ad convince anyone that they need to get Obama off of the ballot, even if such a petition drive could work. Once someone&#039;s got the job, Americans tend to be reluctant to disqualify the candidate. (Case in point with the Walker recall.) If Obama loses, it&#039;ll be because moderates don&#039;t remember the Bush years and not because of birtherism.&lt;br&gt;]]></description>
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<p>@Monotreme</p>
<p>I think it’s the sort of thing that only converts the already converted. The only people crying about Obama’s birth certificate are those who already think any Democrat is an illegitimate President.</p>
<p>Nor will such an ad convince anyone that they need to get Obama off of the ballot, even if such a petition drive could work. Once someone’s got the job, Americans tend to be reluctant to disqualify the candidate. (Case in point with the Walker recall.) If Obama loses, it’ll be because moderates don’t remember the Bush years and not because of birtherism.</p>
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		<title>By: Monotreme</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monotreme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 04:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does anyone think &lt;a href=&quot;http://thehill.com/video/campaign/242235-conservative-group-runs-ad-questioning-obama-birth-certificate&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; will work?&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone think <a href="http://thehill.com/video/campaign/242235-conservative-group-runs-ad-questioning-obama-birth-certificate" rel="nofollow">this</a> will work?</p>
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		<title>By: Armchair Warlord</title>
		<link>http://www.logarchism.com/2012/08/10/open-mic-august-10/comment-page-3/#comment-35678</link>
		<dc:creator>Armchair Warlord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 05:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Disneyland piece is brilliant, but I haven&#039;t quite figured out how the Marines intend to get their M777 artillery pieces into the woods without (A) getting spotted moving into position by riders on the monorail and (B) having intervening crest problems with the trees.  It&#039;s obviously a situation calling for mortars. ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Disneyland piece is brilliant, but I haven’t quite figured out how the Marines intend to get their M777 artillery pieces into the woods without (A) getting spotted moving into position by riders on the monorail and (B) having intervening crest problems with the trees.  It’s obviously a situation calling for mortars. <img src='http://www.logarchism.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Monotreme</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monotreme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 05:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OMG Guys! My all-time favorite anti-Commie movie has been remade!&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/embed/nGoe7BdGdlg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/embed/nGoe7BdGdlg&lt;/a&gt;&#160;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Wolverines!&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG Guys! My all-time favorite anti-Commie movie has been remade!
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<div><a href="http://www.youtube.com/embed/nGoe7BdGdlg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/embed/nGoe7BdGdlg</a> </div>
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<div>Wolverines!</div>
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		<title>By: Monotreme</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monotreme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 04:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnas.org/blogs/abumuqawama&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Andrew Exum&#039;s blog&lt;/a&gt; is still alive and well.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Through it, I found this gem: should the People&#039;s Republic of North Korea or another enemy agent decide to occupy The Magic Kingdom, we have &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2012/07/27/what-are-the-optimal-siege-tactics-for-taking-magic-kingdoms-cinderella-castle/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a ready-made counter-insurgency strategy&lt;/a&gt;. The destruction of &quot;It&#039;s a Small World&quot; is a nice side benefit that I would not have considered heretofore.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As Max said, it&#039;s all planned out.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cnas.org/blogs/abumuqawama" rel="nofollow">Andrew Exum’s blog</a> is still alive and well.</p>
<p>Through it, I found this gem: should the People’s Republic of North Korea or another enemy agent decide to occupy The Magic Kingdom, we have <a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2012/07/27/what-are-the-optimal-siege-tactics-for-taking-magic-kingdoms-cinderella-castle/" rel="nofollow">a ready-made counter-insurgency strategy</a>. The destruction of “It’s a Small World” is a nice side benefit that I would not have considered heretofore.</p>
<p>As Max said, it’s all planned out.</p>
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		<title>By: Monotreme</title>
		<link>http://www.logarchism.com/2012/08/10/open-mic-august-10/comment-page-2/#comment-35672</link>
		<dc:creator>Monotreme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 04:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AW,&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;I used to work (very, very part time) in disaster planning for the largest hospital in the state of Mississippi. My specialty was chemical and biological weapons. When we&#039;d get briefings from the FBI, their biggest concern (both before and after 9/11) was not external terrorist groups, but internal terrorist groups. Al Qaida got &quot;lucky&quot; (tragically) with one good blow against America that killed almost 3000 but the insane domestic terrorists are more numerous and throughout history have carried out more attacks on Americans than Al Qaida ever dreamt of.&#160;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AW,
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<div>I used to work (very, very part time) in disaster planning for the largest hospital in the state of Mississippi. My specialty was chemical and biological weapons. When we’d get briefings from the FBI, their biggest concern (both before and after 9/11) was not external terrorist groups, but internal terrorist groups. Al Qaida got “lucky” (tragically) with one good blow against America that killed almost 3000 but the insane domestic terrorists are more numerous and throughout history have carried out more attacks on Americans than Al Qaida ever dreamt of. </div>
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		<title>By: Armchair Warlord</title>
		<link>http://www.logarchism.com/2012/08/10/open-mic-august-10/comment-page-2/#comment-35664</link>
		<dc:creator>Armchair Warlord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 04:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Internet comments sections are infested by insane trolls, seemingly everywhere but here.  You shoulda seen the circus on Andrew Exum&#039;s blog back in the day (and probably sill, if he&#039;s still writing it).  The authors obviously struck a nerve by calling out the insane right so publicly, and it&#039;s my sincere hope that the obvious attempt to scream them down will draw as much publicly to this threat as possible.

I feel like I need brain bleach every time I look at the SWJ forums, so I stay away most of the time. ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Internet comments sections are infested by insane trolls, seemingly everywhere but here.  You shoulda seen the circus on Andrew Exum’s blog back in the day (and probably sill, if he’s still writing it).  The authors obviously struck a nerve by calling out the insane right so publicly, and it’s my sincere hope that the obvious attempt to scream them down will draw as much publicly to this threat as possible.</p>
<p>I feel like I need brain bleach every time I look at the SWJ forums, so I stay away most of the time. <img src='http://www.logarchism.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: shiloh</title>
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		<dc:creator>shiloh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 03:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mono

Re: the extreme right wing comments, they must have been asleep during the (8) years of Bush ie ...

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/apr/24/usa.comment&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fascist America, in 10 easy steps&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mono</p>
<p>Re: the extreme right wing comments, they must have been asleep during the (8) years of Bush ie …</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/apr/24/usa.comment" rel="nofollow">Fascist America, in 10 easy steps</a></p>
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		<title>By: Monotreme</title>
		<link>http://www.logarchism.com/2012/08/10/open-mic-august-10/comment-page-2/#comment-35653</link>
		<dc:creator>Monotreme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 03:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;The comments were much, much scarier than the scary main article.]]></description>
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<p>The comments were much, much scarier than the scary main article.</p>
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