Comments on: Open Mic September 14 http://www.logarchism.com/2012/09/14/open-mic-september-14/ Governing through Reason Tue, 14 May 2013 23:00:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: mclever http://www.logarchism.com/2012/09/14/open-mic-september-14/comment-page-1/#comment-40677 mclever Sun, 16 Sep 2012 18:54:41 +0000 http://www.logarchism.com/?p=18346#comment-40677 @Mainer

More football advertising today. This time, Obama’s hitting the broadcast networks. I’ve seen the Clinton “choice” ad and the Obama “Forward” ad both on CBS. Gives me hope that Iowa might shift from toss-up to leaning Dem whenever someone gets around to polling us again. I know that there are polls being done–I’ve responded to three phone polls just this past week–but apparently not any publicly published ones.

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By: Michael Weiss http://www.logarchism.com/2012/09/14/open-mic-september-14/comment-page-1/#comment-40674 Michael Weiss Sun, 16 Sep 2012 18:50:30 +0000 http://www.logarchism.com/?p=18346#comment-40674 DC,

What is par­tic­u­larly amaz­ing is that not only do tax cuts demon­stra­bly lead to eco­nomic col­lapse, but tax increases clearly lead to growth.

Correlation is not causation. That argument is post hoc, ergo propter hoc. Not to say that tax cuts lead to growth, either, but I wouldn’t say tax cuts demonstrably lead to economic collapse. We had many tax cuts before Reagan that did not lead to collapse.

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By: dcpetterson http://www.logarchism.com/2012/09/14/open-mic-september-14/comment-page-1/#comment-40665 dcpetterson Sun, 16 Sep 2012 17:33:41 +0000 http://www.logarchism.com/?p=18346#comment-40665 Do tax cuts lead to economic growth? Here is a chart that should settle the question. What is particularly amazing is that not only do tax cuts demonstrably lead to economic collapse, but tax increases clearly lead to growth.

I expect our conservative friends to ignore the chart. You can find the full article here.

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By: Max http://www.logarchism.com/2012/09/14/open-mic-september-14/comment-page-1/#comment-40657 Max Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:05:30 +0000 http://www.logarchism.com/?p=18346#comment-40657 Hashanah tova!

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By: Mainer http://www.logarchism.com/2012/09/14/open-mic-september-14/comment-page-1/#comment-40651 Mainer Sun, 16 Sep 2012 02:45:58 +0000 http://www.logarchism.com/?p=18346#comment-40651 WA, nice idea. Take every one identified as a part of this and sue them into oblivion. I’m still betting there is some hinky money movement in all of this, with that there might actually be some thing illegal to work with.

Hmmm interesting idea to hit football games. I’m sure the Romney campaign will jump on that as well. It will give them a chance to froth at the mouth about the Fed. I bet there are a fair number of unempoyed or underwater folks watching. Some of them might like the idea that some is actually being done that might help down the road.

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By: mclever http://www.logarchism.com/2012/09/14/open-mic-september-14/comment-page-1/#comment-40650 mclever Sun, 16 Sep 2012 02:37:21 +0000 http://www.logarchism.com/?p=18346#comment-40650 BTW, note from the campaign front-lines, Obama is running ads during football, including on the BTN (Big Ten) network which hits most of the swing states. I’m becoming very fond of the Clinton “clear choice” ad.

:-)

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By: WA7th http://www.logarchism.com/2012/09/14/open-mic-september-14/comment-page-1/#comment-40644 WA7th Sun, 16 Sep 2012 01:12:46 +0000 http://www.logarchism.com/?p=18346#comment-40644 As far as taking responsibility for the consequences of free speech to its extreme, I wonder what are the limits to reasonability of the range of civil claims that could theoretically be made aginst the guy who made the film, from the actors he lied to, his neighbors who suddenly have to deal with the press descending upon their neighborhood with bright lights blazing 24/7, all the way down to the people who have to cancel their foreign travel plans because of the protests.

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By: Mainer http://www.logarchism.com/2012/09/14/open-mic-september-14/comment-page-1/#comment-40640 Mainer Sun, 16 Sep 2012 00:29:05 +0000 http://www.logarchism.com/?p=18346#comment-40640 Armchair I have said for some time that I really feel badly for many of my friends that have spent years working to make the shooting sports fun, safe, and better understood. It just seems like the lunatic fringe is out to tear down every thing and to hell with others hard work and dedication, all the while constantly bitching, pissing and moaning about their loss of liberties and freedoms.

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By: Armchair Warlord http://www.logarchism.com/2012/09/14/open-mic-september-14/comment-page-1/#comment-40632 Armchair Warlord Sat, 15 Sep 2012 23:09:47 +0000 http://www.logarchism.com/?p=18346#comment-40632 If I may draw your attention to a recent flap that went largely unnoticed outside of certain circles,

http://soldiersystems.net/tag/recoil/

Scroll down for the whole sordid story. Long story short — editor of a firearms magazine makes a comment that a weapon which is already illegal in the United States should remain so, generating a firestorm of hatred for him and his magazine, causing most of his advertisers to pull out and resulting in his being forced out as editor. This entire thing reminds me of the firearms industry executive who was fired in 2008 for donating to the Obama campaign, or the flap with Jim Zumbo before that.

The thuggish behavior of the “black rifles” community in support of their 2nd Amendment rights is probably the greatest single threat to those rights that exists. As much as I love guns, I’d also love to see some of those people cry.

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By: channelclemente http://www.logarchism.com/2012/09/14/open-mic-september-14/comment-page-1/#comment-40607 channelclemente Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:55:41 +0000 http://www.logarchism.com/?p=18346#comment-40607 Let’s suppose you posed the question about say Terry Jones a different way.  Suppose the distraught comrade or relative of a soldier/diplomat killed in the turmoil cased by burning a Koran shot and killed Jones.  Knowing the facts, would you convict the killer, and if so of what.  I did not say ‘was he guilty’, but if you were on that jury, would you convict the grieving accused.

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