Comments on: Presidential Debate 3

By: Max

Max — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 02:18:37 +0000

fili,

Romney was NOT a "businessman". He did NOT run a company that made things or provided services. He did NOT depend on the CUSTOMER for the welfare of Bain. He either, for a short time, was a venture capitalist, putting money in, but NOT running Staples and a couple others. The other 90% of Bain's "business" was identifying companies for takeover, doing a highly leverage purchase, and then either looting them of their assets while paying themselves handsome "management fees", and/or piecemealing them out and sending the jobs overseas, principally to China.

But run a business that provided goods and services for customers, increasing demand and market share, expanding business and hiring employees?

Nope, didn't happen. And Obama missed an opportunity by not mentioning Sensata by name last night.

By: Monotreme

Monotreme — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 02:16:20 +0000

You heard it here at Logarchism first. (My #308, #311, #312 from last night.)

By: Monotreme

Monotreme — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 01:49:54 +0000

One thing I came across while looking up references for #423:

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/620570/Games-funds-survive-pork-debate.html?pg=all

It made me smile wistfully. There were giants in those days.

By: Rose

Rose — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 01:16:27 +0000

I know I shouldn't enjoy Obama's snarky comments, but many of those he made last night reminded me of "Oh, you're likable enough." It's moments like that that make him human to me.

By: Rose

Rose — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 01:13:37 +0000

A divorce that didn't happen 12 years ago.

In light of the genuine-appearing affection we've seen for the last 4+ years, all I can say is "so what?"

I'm just amazed that this is the "best" all of Trump's money can come up with.

By: channelclemente

channelclemente — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 00:54:23 +0000

Actually,

if the 'Obama revelation' is true, it might humanize him to a whole cadre of folks who see him as too good to be true.

By: Monotreme

Monotreme — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 00:52:51 +0000

The scandal that brought down the original Olympics organizers was a classic payola scheme. Members of the church, who are not taught to frame their own ethical questions, frequently get involved in influence peddling, conflicts of interest, and affinity frauds.

Mitt Romney was honest. In that respect, he was like a breath of fresh air, and members of the church generally have a high regard for him for wiping the egg off the church's face.

He did so with considerable help from the United States Government, which as we know, never created a single job. About $1.3 billion was extracted from the Federal government to support the 2002 Olympics. The total Olympics budget was $2 billion. I disagree with factcheck.org about the highway funds coming even if the Olympics were never here. For example, the road known as "Trapper's Loop" cost U.S. taxpayers $15M and serves exclusively, then as now, to give residents of the area better access to Earl Holding's ski area, Snowbasin. Holding is also the CEO of Sinclair Oil.

By: filistro

filistro — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 00:19:16 +0000

@Treme... Romney and semiotics: another of the many things that puzzle me about the man.

I just can't see how this guy was a super-successful businessman. He simply doesn't seem shrewd, insightful and canny, as a businessman needs to be. And you can't run a company or make advantageous deals if you are unable to read people, divine their htoughts and anticipate their reactions.

Maybe he's some kind of savant... a genius at business but clueless and clumsy in every other dimension of personal life? It's really baffling to me.

Which reminds me. I've long been curious about this and keep forgetting to ask Treme and/or Rose, who likely both know... what is the genuine scuttlebutt around Salt Lake about Romney and those Olympics? Did he really "save" them with his businessman acumen and sheer managerial wizardry?

By: Monotreme

Monotreme — Tue, 23 Oct 2012 23:42:31 +0000

One thing you have to "admire" about Mitt Romney is his ham-handed way with semiotics, the meaning behind gestures, signs and other non-verbal communications.

As a native of the area, I find this absolutely hilarious.

Romney rally at Red Rocks raises issue of government role in economy

Romney Rally At Red Rocks Amphitheater Raises Spectre Of FDR, New Deal

By: Michael Weiss

Michael Weiss — Tue, 23 Oct 2012 23:39:15 +0000

filistro,

How do the Logarchism folks think this would play, if true?

Sounds like a big yawn to me. Oh, no doubt FOX and Freeperville and RedState will hyperventilate over it. But that’s not going to change the outcome of the election. Those who don’t live in the GOP echo chamber might hear about it, but if they do they’ll probably shrug it off. After all, who cares?