Thursday, Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta announced that the Pentagon would lift a formal ban on women in combat roles in the US Military.
It’s likely this is the last major act by Secretary Panetta, who is stepping down. Even if it’s not his last act, there is no doubt this is the act with the greatest import he has taken in his abbreviated stint as the head of the Defense Department.
Countries currently allowing women in combat (map) are mostly in Europe: Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Lithuania, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Romania, and Sweden; and in prosperous English-speaking countries: Australia, Canada and New Zealand. In addition, one desperate country (Israel) and two desperately poor countries (Eritrea and North Korea) allow women in combat.
Women are piloting US fighter aircraft already. Other nations that allow women fighter pilots are Pakistan, Serbia, South Africa, South Korea and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (or, as I prefer to call it, UKoGBaNI, “you-kay-oh-guh-ban-nee”).
Women already serve in combat roles in the US military, but through a number of (draft?) dodges, the military establishment has maintained the fiction that they do not. For example, there’s this anecdote reported by CNN.com from the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Martin Dempsey:
As he prepared for a trip outside his headquarters, he took a moment to introduce himself to the crew of his Humvee.
“I slapped the turret gunner on the leg and I said, ‘Who are you?’ And she leaned down and said, I’m Amanda.’ And I said, ‘Ah, OK,’ ” Dempsey told reporters at the Pentagon.
“So, female turret-gunner protecting division commander. It’s from that point on that I realized something had changed, and it was time to do something about it.”
At this writing, 67 of the nearly 3,500 Americans killed by hostile fire in Iraq and 33 of the more than 1,700 killed in combat in Afghanistan have been women. About 1,000 of the 50,000-plus US wounded in Iraq and Afghanistan are women.
It’s not clear what physical standards will be set for many of the specialized élite combat roles — such as Navy SEALS and Army Rangers — but while gender will not be a criterion, most everyone agrees that the physical standards will exclude all but the most exceptional of women.
If members of our military can meet the qualifications for a job — and let me be clear, I’m not talking about reducing the qualifications for the job — if they can meet the qualifications for the job, then they should have the right to serve, regardless of creed or color or gender or sexual orientation. — Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta
In one of those coincidences of history, Panetta’s announcement came just two days after the 40th anniversary of Roe v. Wade, the landmark Supreme Court decision written by Justice Harry Blackmun (who was appointed by the raving liberal, President Dwight David Eisenhower).
The convergence of two lines of thought, one for each of these events, got me to reflecting on my childhood.
Norma McCorvey was a high school dropout, a drug user, and pregnant in 1969. (McCorvey has since spoken out against both abortion and President Obama.)
Two years later, in November 1971, National Airlines unveiled their blatantly sexist and belittling “Fly Me” campaign. Derided even at the time as being a bit outré, now it seems, only 42 years later, to belong to another universe, or at least something more distant in time than, say, Downton Abbey. Now Cheryl may be the pilot, but frankly, I wouldn’t care whether she was a Wookiee, so long as she can outrun Imperial starships. Not the local bulk cruisers mind you, I’m talking about the big Corellian ships now.
The next month, December 13, 1971, a lawyer defending Dallas County District Attorney Henry Wade (Wade was the respondent on behalf of the State of Texas), began glibly with a clunky attempt at wit: “It’s an old joke, but when a man argues against two beautiful ladies like this, they are going to have the last word.”
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We make Virginia Slims especially for women because they are biologically superior to men. That’s right, superior. Women are more resistant to starvation, fatigue, exposure, shock and illness than men are. Women have two “X” chromosomes in their sex cells while men have only one “X” chromosome and a “Y” chromosome, which some experts consider to be the inferior chromosome. They are also less inclined than men to congenital baldness [illegible text] of the eyes, improperly developed sweat glands, color blindness of the red green type, day blindness, defective hair follicles, defective [illegible text], defective tooth enamel, double eyelashes, skin cysts, shortsightedness, night blindness, [illegible text] retinal detachment and white occipital locks of hair. In view of these and other facts, the makes of Virginia Slims feel it highly inappropriate that women continue to use the fat stubby cigarettes designed for mere men. Virginia Slims. Slimmer than the fat cigarettes men smoke. With rich Virginia flavor women like. You’ve come a long way, baby. (Source: tobaccodocuments.org)
Meanwhile, the Republican National Committee decides to stay the course, according to Politico:
“On some things, we have the right policy and do a terrible job conveying it. And the Democrats have a bad policy and do a great job,” said Mississippi Republican Chairman Joe Nosef.
“So conservatives feel like, whether this is right or wrong, that if we’re talking about the issues, that we have a really good chance at winning. The thing we can’t do is start talking about crazy stuff… We run people off… A collective number of these people are tired of doing that.”
“I feel like a pro-life position is a position that a lot of people have, but that doesn’t have anything to do with crazy talk about rape,” he added.
Politico reports that “without objection, the full RNC approved a resolution by voice vote Friday calling on Congress to defund Planned Parenthood and redistribute the money intended for cancer screening and preventive services to organizations that do not perform abortions.”
Women, once relegated to be on-demand bunnies for male entertainment on flights, are now flying not only the commercial plane but the air support for warfighters on the ground. Soon, women will be among those ground troops.
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And with women showing up in all facets of the military, isn’t it also time for them to sign up with Selective Service?
Yes
@Michael
No disagreement from me!
Every now and then we undergo a period of cultural change so rapid that it seems almost dizzying. We are presently in one of those watershed eras, and it must be terrifying for conservatives whose entire ethos is built on a fear of change and a desire to cling to the past.
Just a few of the really massive changes we’ve seen in the past ten years or so:
- the open acceptance of gays in the clergy and the military as well as in general society
- an absolute explosion in technology
- legalized gay marriage in many states
- a black president
- women gaining an increasingly prominent role in all cultural institutions
- demographic chanmge leading to whites becoming minorities in many states
- globally, the Arab Spring and the fall of long-entrenched dictators
- an underlying global fear that the climate is changing drastically
Others?
I find it all quite exhilarating… but conservatives must have the panicky feeling that they’re just hanging on by their toenails while the world whirls past them.
Just in case there is any misunderstanding, the “I’m ______, fly me.” ads were depicting stewardesses (now flight attendants), never pilots. Flight attendants were fired for not being young any longer or for gaining weight. They were the in-air version of Playboy bunnies, albeit with slightly more clothing.
Rose,
And in an era when the tickets cost the same, regardless of the carrier, the points of differentiation were all in aspects of the experience. Given that the money was in business travelers (even then), and business travelers were overwhelmingly men, the “eye candy” factor made a significant difference in filling the seats.
That’s not to excuse it, per se. Rather, I point this out to provide more context.
filistro,
Much of it, yes. I’m hard pressed to call climate change “exhilarating”, given the implications.
Just a question: Since we don’t have the draft anymore (thank goodness), then why do we still have the Selective Service? It seems that an easier solution than getting women to sign up for it would be to simply eliminate it altogether. Can anyone explain why it still exists?
Others?
Worldwide economic depression? Does that count?But at least we’re PC now.
Btw, France had massive protests against gay marriage recently and global warming concern is dropping in most Western countries.So, not panicked. And Assad and Aymanutob might disagree on your “dictators”. But GW thanks you for your support of the Iraq invasion and removing Saddam.
PNE,
War. We don’t fight ‘wars’ so much any more, just the odd short term engagement with post conflict political consequences.
PNE,
Because it’s much easier to reinstate a draft (if we need to) with Selective Service still intact than it would be without it. It’s not that we don’t have “the draft” anymore; it’s that we don’t have an active draft anymore.
rgbact,
And massive demonstrations in favor. It’s a hot topic there, since legislation is going through the French system now.
How are you measuring “concern”?
They might. Or they might agree. What difference does it make either way?
What support?
And massive demonstrations in favor. It’s a hot topic there, since legislation is going through the French system now.
According to Reuters, the “anti” one was estimated 3 times larger.
What difference does it make either way?
Thanks Hillary. I think you’re missing my point.
What support?
Fili mentioned how great it was that dictators are toppled. So, the ones I can think of are Saddam, Mubarak, and Gaddafi. Saddam being the first domino and the most brutal.
I have been in favor of women in the military, and women registering for Selective Service, ever since the 1960’s. I’m in favor of equal rights, and I always have been. For a woman who wants to make the military her career, keeping her out of combat roles severely limits her options. Since equal rights matter to me, I see no reason for women to be kept away from combat out of some false sense of chivalry. Why should men be subjected to the meatgrinder of modern warfare, but women protected from it?
Society has certainly changed in the last half-century. There were a lot of macho chickenhawks who supported the Vietnam War, and had no trouble sending our young men to be hacked apart in a jungle on the other side of the world. I suspect they’d have thought twice if their daughters had gotten drafted. We’ll see if that’s still true in the next war.
Yes, conservatives are scared. That’s what filistro said. It’s easy to get scared and angry people into the streets.
So am I. Seriously, why do we care about the opinions of Assad and ??? (I admit I don’t know that other guy)?
On Saddam Husein — there is a difference between a population rising up to throw off a dictator, and on the other hand invading a sovereign nation on a lie and destroying their country and infrastructure in the process. It strikes me as bordering on the obscene to equate those two.
rgbact,
So what? Are you implying that the French are opposed to same-sex marriage? That same-sex marriage is a bad thing? What are you trying to say here?
Obviously. Otherwise I wouldn’t have asked what difference it made.
No, she didn’t. You inferred that on your own.
Finding ‘reason’ in frogland is not for the faint of heart…that’s a liberal rendition of Thomas Burke’s POV in the 18th century.
The UK is about to celebrate it’s economic austerity approach to recession medication with a third dip. Maybe they should listen a little more to Burke themselves.
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/01/britains-economy-is-a-disaster-and-nobody-is-entirely-sure-why/272556/
The Violence Against Women Act comes up for a vote in the Senate next week. Irony unleashed.
Michael… I actually find the prospect of global climate change VERY exhilarating. Not in the short term, of course… the next few generations are in for a boatload of suffering. I doubt that humanity has the capacity to destroy Mother Earth, but the grim realities of climate change over the next couple of centuries will force us to begin treating her a whole lot better… and that’s a Good Thing.
I won’t be around to see it, of course… but it’s pretty exciting to think people all around the planet are going to have to set aside their greed and selfishness and start working together to restore balance to the environment.
A model for human’s dealing with climate change in a creative way.
Well. Where to begin. First with Monotreme. I think I get the correlation between abortion, stewardesses and women in combat. Although I am now suffering from sever whiplash and need a massage.
I am a retired member of the armed forces. 8 Years Active Duty Air Force, 12 Years Air Force Reserves. I never saw combat and to this day am grateful. Although, I did volunteer for Desert Storm and was activated for 10 months. I spent the entire time repairing aircraft at Travis AFB.
For women in the military, it’s not that easy to say here are women, deal with it. Lots of people chided President Clinton for the Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell Policy. But you cannot expect great change over night. You have to let people get used to the idea. When the law was repealed, look at the changes. I know few active duty anymore, but back in the day, most people did not care, it just wasn’t talked about. Now it’s out in the open ( I do have one friend that came out when the law changed and she was surprised by everyone’s lack of interest — oh, we never suspected)
So for years, women have filled combat positions. And have died for you and me. And the time has come to bring them out of the closet. To make it a public acknowledgement. The issue of physical fitness is not that big a deal. I have seen these men and worked with these men. And I could take most of them out.
What is an issue — will women want to take a squat next to some guy. How much gear will they have to remove to drop trau and relieve themselves? What about their menstrual cycle? What about the smells involved? What about the men who may put themselves at unnecessary risk to protect the pretty little lady? What about the attractive woman using her wiles to get out of duties?
There was a fictional TV show where a woman was sleeping with the boss to avoid riding the first truck on the recon missions because the first truck was usually the one hit with IEDs. She filed charges against him for sexual harassment. Really? She didn’t have to sleep with him, she wanted special privileges to avoid dying. The men should have filed charges for not getting the same offer.
Third — I only heard from coworkers, not first hand — women in tent cities were afraid to go out at night for fear of rape. In the bathrooms at Hill AFB is a guideline in how to report rape. A special department exists for reporting rape without facing your accuser. No where. Well, that’s not true. In small type, in one sentence, it says to tell the person No. Seriously? No. Shouldn’t it be in big letters. Tell the fuckwad to back up before you put his testicles on the wall as one of your trophies?
What I am saying, is the military still teaches the women to be victims. They did in my day and apparently, they still do. That is what needs to change.
So these are the real issues you should look at. The actual day-to-day problems that are already occurring and not being talked about.
The actual day-to-day problems that are already occurring and not being talked about.
And they won’t, but thanks for touching on them. Sadly, many issues are now all about “PC”, so to object is to be called a racist hating denier. What matters on issues like gun control and female combat is good intentions, not that the ideas make logical sense. Real concerns like those of sexual assault and increased unit casualties seen in units with women have little place in todays shallow world of political debate.
rgbact,
Nonsense. The concerns you raise are good to raise, and are being fervently discussed. They are not, however, reasons to avoid recognizing that women already engage in combat roles.
Militarily speaking, the only valid reason to oppose the participation of women in combat is force effectiveness. Not casualty rates — unless it affects effectiveness. And not rates of sexual assaults, as despicable as sexual assault is. I served with women when I was in the military, and the most capable officer I ever met was a woman. And she probably got dead-ended while dim bulbs who happened to be male made general.
If it is more effective for a force to incorporate women, then, militarily, that should be done.